Wednesday, October 15

17 Kids and Counting: "When Big Families Collide" and "Bates vs. Duggars Smackdown"

Hi everybody! New contributor Lola here, writing today about the latest episodes of the Duggar Family's new series, 17 Kids and Counting. Just the latest in TLC's "abnormally large family freakshow," this series of half-hour shows is more of a "reality TV" look at the super-Christian Duggar family of Arkansas, who until now we've only seen in a few hour-long specials and an occasional news appearance when mom, Michelle, pops out yet another little "blessing." (Without getting too in-depth into their beliefs, the Duggars are part of the Quiver Full movement, which believes that children are blessings from the lord and people shouldn't do anything to inhibit getting pregnant. Which is fine and all, except most QF families end up with maybe 5-6 kids. The Duggars actively try to get pregnant as soon as possible after each birth, which is why there are a kajillion of them.)

In their two latest episodes (shown back-to-back), the Duggars received a visit from the Bates family from Tennessee. With 16 kids and one on the way, they have almost caught up to the Duggars (though actually, there are two sets of Duggar twins, so by number of pregnancies, the Bates are winning). If you thought the Duggars' uniform of khakis and polos for the boys and long skirts for the girls was conservative, take a look at the Bates! Okay, khakis and polos again for the boys, but those poor girls are dressing like Little Clown on the Prairie! The Bates women thought if they wore dresses "it would be pleasing to the lord," so one of the older girls sews the same pattern in various sizes and color combinations so everyone can wear a matching dress with a giant collar and ruffled trim. However, while the Duggars currently dress in what they refer to as "Modern Modest," it wasn't too long ago that they were all rocking the big frilly collars as well.

Anyway, some other stuff happened, the two families did some good Christian activities like skydiving and paintballing, but probably the funniest part was when they went to Silver Dollar City to see people in old-timey costumes demonstrate blacksmithing and candy making. The Bates girls' dresses were the same as the old timey costumes! (Meanwhile, Jinger Duggar was shown rolling her eyes at the candy demo. Free Jinger!)

Coming up next week: see how the Duggars save money on necessities like food, clothing, and shelter! (Based on past specials, I'm going to guess it involves trips to Aldi's and the thrift store, and getting TLC to build you a house.)

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Anonymous said...

The Duggars make me ill. I continually pray for impotence for Jim Bob and menopause for Michelle. Puke.

Anonymous said...

I continually pray that no one will watch this show and that TLC will get so much bad publicity that they will cancel it.

Joy said...

If all the kids are happy and they can afford it, why does it matter if they have 2 or 22? Does it affect your daily life? I think people need to just get over it. Sure, large families are definately not for everybody but some people do enjoy it.

Milara Love said...

Wow. The Duggars disgust me. I hate them so much. I hate how they try and say that "God wants them to have 17 kids..." blah blah blah. They must be so kinky to have so many kids. Imagine them in bed! blahaha.


p.s. I couldnt believe the episode when the oldest duggar boy, couldnt even KISS his fiance..... wow

Anonymous said...

CANCEL THIS SHOW!!! All they do is preach on how their way is right. These poor, poor children! For those who complain about John and Kate plus 8 getting freebies, look at these people! TLC pretty much paid for them to have a fine fancy house. The thing that really, really irks me, THEY DON'T ALLOW THEIR CHILDREN TO WATCH TELEVISION! However, they have no problem making T.V. shows for profit. Their life is unrealistic and out of touch. It's fine if they want to live that way, but I am sick of them telling everyone that their life is so much better. They pretty much tell everyone each week that if we don't behave like them, we are going to hell. GET THIS SHOW OFF OF THE AIR!

Anonymous said...

The Duggars make me say "ew" whenever I think about them. I grew up in a family with 7 kids, but 17 kids and they're having another?! Who does that? I'm not a huge fan of "Jon & Kate Plus Eight", but at least their kids are cute and they didn't plan to have that many. The first episode of the Duggars' show I ever saw was one when they were making the boys do housework (which apparently only the girls do) and the girls do the "boy's work." Their family is ridiculously sexist and conservative. I feel bad for those poor girls, growing up thinking they can't have a career, and all they're going to do with themselves is become housewives and continue to overpopulate America.

Anonymous said...

In one episode, one of the Duggar girls said they all have long hair because Daddy likes long hair. I'm sure this was innocent and all, but it sure sounded creepy.

Olivia said...

I don't know what to think about this family. I honestly don't think that God intended for everyone to have huge families although it is usually biologically possible. For all of the conservative values they have, it is interesting how the oldest boy likes to drive all of these expensive vehicles from his car lot whenever he can. I'd like to know where he got the money to start his car lot. I personally don't agree with how the daughters seem to be taught that their destiny is to become a housewife. I think it'll be interesting as they grow older, I bet that at least one of their kids will rebel and go against family values, probably one of the younger ones. But, that is just a guess. I wonder how many families out there are like the Duggars and the Bates?

Anonymous said...

I think Jon & Kate is fine. They didn't intend to have such a large family but have made the best of it, and try to give their kids the best life possible. Who cares if they get freebies to make the kids lives better. On the other hands, the Duggars make me want to puke. They brainwash the children, the girls do all the parenting and housework and all Jim Bob and Michelle seem to do is brainwash with their crazy views of Christianity (I'm Catholic, so far from liberal), courtship, and try to coneceieve the next one. I understand the concept of not using actual birth control (as it is a Catholic belief as well, but I do not practice it). But they should not try to get pregnant as soon as she pops one out. She must have been pregnant for half of her life. For such a conservative family that won't even allow their children to date (or as they say "court your future spouse") or even kiss prior to marriage, that Jim Bob seems like a hypocrite that needs to learn to keep it in his pants or be castrated. And I agree, I see Jinger seeming to have her own personality develop. We need to start a FREE JINGER site.

Anonymous said...

While having 17+ children biologically isn't necessarily for me, I figure that each person is allowed to choose for themselves how many children they will have and how they will choose to raise them.
Our nation is pro-choice about so many other things, why beat down this family?

Anonymous said...

I really enjoy watching 17 Kids and Counting. Our family belives in God and belives His Word, although we do practice birth control! :) I'm glad TLC chooses to show families that seek to honor God. So many people today want "tolerance" to live their lives as they please. Why do these same people attack the Duggers for living their life as they do? Show a little equality people.

Anonymous said...

If the Duggers want to have 100 and kids and can afford it more power to them. The problem in America and the rest of the world are all these deadbeats getting pregnant and going on WIC, foodstaps, and other means of wellfare. And they are not trying to push their beliefs on other people just because they express how they feel. Just because somebody expresses that they are gay does that mean they are trying to force you to become gay? If you really consider yourself a peaceful person change the channel when their show comes on, but don't think just because their ideals, morals, and values differ from yours that they must be wrong. That would be pretty arrogant of you to assume your way is the only way to live. Most people that hate them, do so because they are christians.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone notice how much the oldest boys fiance (now wife) looks and acts just like his mother (Mrs. Duggar)? Even the same hair style. The same vocabulary. The same clothes. The fact that he marries a girl EXACTLY like his mother except younger is really disturbing to me. I say marry who you want but it makes me think that what he really wants to do is leave his fiance out of it all togeather and keep it in the family if anyone reading this gets what i mean. Thats what the fiance makes me think just to look at her.

Anonymous said...

Wow...I cannot believe you guys. I agree with Joy. To each family his own! If they decided that God is the leader of their family and want to have 18 children...why not. They are debt free and not relying on anyone to help them support their children. If anything they are teaching their children better than most Americans. Their oldest boy….when he proposed…. Owned several of his own businesses and had a house PAID FOR. How many at the age of 20 can say that? What this family had chosen to do, does not in any way affect your daily living….SO DON’T watch if they bother you. I am sure we could figure out things that bother us if you were on TV! The only reason they are on TLC is because there were enough people that did show interest in how a family that big runs. Again if it isn’t for you…don’t choose to watch. It is that simple. People really need to find the good in people and not focus on the bad!

Everyone is just jealous said...

Some people make me sick. And I don't mean the Duggars. I mean the rude, jealous people bashing them. Go back many years, when people used to have lots of children. Funny how there was never anything wrong with it then. But for some reason, in this day and age, it is? Bet no one is bright enough to explain that one. Let them be. Quit being JEALOUS of them! They have a HUGE house, built by THEM, PAID OFF! Bet NO ONE running their mouth on here can say that. And to the retard that said their kids are not allowed to watch TV, thats crap. They are just LIMITED to how much they can watch. I think its great that they dont let their children spend HOURS and HOURS a day in front of the TV. We need more parents out there like them that vow to actually spend time with their family rather than sit them in front of the TV so you dont have to deal with them. This is a family that actually has patience, morals, and goals in life. And so what if their goal is having a large family. Thats better than some parents goals I have seen. It just really goes to prove that there are some people left in this world who does not need to depend on others, that all they need are each other and the love of their family members. You all are just a bunch of haters.

Anonymous said...

I think that the duggars are nice people and they should do what they want to do. No one told you how to live your life so get used to it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Out of 17 kids, what are the odds that one of them is GLBT? And if so, what consequences will the kid face if they (ever) come out?

Anonymous said...

Whatever happened to "My body, my choice?"

Anonymous said...

Just because the Duggars live a different lifestyle why does it matter? The kids and parents seem extremely happy and isn't that what counts? They don't force their kids to believe what they believe, the children do it on their own. They are not harming anyone by their large family, they pay their own way. There are tons of people who have kids so the government gives them money, aren't these the people we should say are disgusting?

amelia caruso said...

when we live in a world where more than half the children are hungry, where they dont have parents, they dont have loving homes, the idea that god wants you to keep having kids is disgusting. its 2008, god does not want you to populate the earth, thats already been done.

the perpetuated ignorance of their children borders on abuse. that 19year who just got married, man is he a piece of work.

i am offended by every second of it and have gone to the TLC website and told them so.

and the comment by Anonymous said who says that "They don't force their kids to believe what they believe, the children do it on their own" is the most ignorant thing i have heard since i last watched this show.

Anonymous said...

Wow! I am so amazed by the animosity toward this family. It doesn't make any sense. They are harming no one. In fact, they are putting future leaders and moral characters into the world. There are plenty of people who either choose not to have children or who choose not to parent the children they do have. We need a balance of folks who will parent with values and discipline. Their kids will make the world a better place. Good for them and for all of us! Shame on the spiteful ones, who have no logical basis for their disdain.

Caroline said...

I'm sure that just about all of you who have said that this show disgusts you are also people who are pro-choice on abortion. The commenter who asked about the "my body my choice" ideal is completely right. If people are allowed to have their choice on abortion then they can have as many children as they want, and have the choice to raise them however they want.

Yes some of Michelle and Jim Bob's ideals may be old-fashioned, but you people who say Jim Bob needs to be castrated and Michelle needs menopause are just being vile. And to Amelia Caruso, complaining to TLC is not going to change the amount of children the Duggar's have so complaining to them seems to be futile.

Anonymous said...

I believe the Duggars andBates are doing what their creator tells everybody to be friutful and multiply. This message is lost in translation with other religions. These are hard woring folk that care and can provide for thier children. They are not freaks.They are not on welfare and they all work hard Their kids will be prepared t enter life with skills. They will know how to cook,clean and be independent. A lota youngsters leave home and can;t even wash a load of clothes because mommy did it for them. The 16 year old going for a 2nd trimester abortion is sick. At least the Duggar and Bates girls are not running around with belly button peircing with no modesty about their body. Go Guggars and Bates families.

Anonymous said...

Wow...this show needs to be canceled.
In this day and age, with starving children all over the world, if you were really a good moral person, wouldn't you take care of god's unwanted children first before having so many of your own? It is so selfish and also rude that they impose their own conservative, old tiny, almost extinct views. I just saw an episode where Michelle and JimBob preach about how birth control is wrong. Yeah, lets see how great the world would be without it. We'd all starve and be overpopulated and miserable.

Anonymous said...

I like the Duggars. They are a wonderful family.

Sammie123 said...

Yes its a horrible thing that Jim Bob and Michelle Dugger are teaching their kids to be responsible honorable God-loving humanbeings. It is completely different from what society says. Horrible. They should be shot.

Anonymous said...

That show is so gay. The whole family is so dumb

Anonymous said...

these people scare me...tlc should take them off the air and stop encouraging them to force their religious bulls$#t on everybody else in the world. And the father should really be looked at a little harder...he's got another side...

Anonymous said...

Free Jinger Duggar! We love you sassy girl and you can be sure of plenty of safe houses when you finally make the big breakout! Heck, Mom and Pop probably won't even notice your gone for a couple of months.

Anonymous said...

It amazes me that there are so many people who do not know how to change the channel on their TV. Are you being forced to watch this show? When does this freedom of lifestyle come into play? Is it only when people are lined up with your way of thinking? Why not give other people the same freedom to live their lives, as you want to live yours. I really question this hate; it feels a lot like the same hate that some people show toward gays. This family may not be your first choice of dress and morals, but at least they are not drinking, smoking or shooting up drugs, running around half naked, and having sex with anyone they come across. If you don’t want children, I applaud you, if you want 20 children, again, I applaud you. If you want to adopt starving children from 3rd world countries, I applaud you, but don’t be mad at me if I choose not to do so. Why is it so important to you that this family lines up with the rest of this broken world? Why do you feel so threatened by their lifestyle? These people do not hate you, why do you hate them? People who do not know how to change their TV channel, but sit around complaining about what is on their TV, have a much worse problem than this family.

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, the parents would notice Jinger was gone right away because the poor girl does all of the laundry for the family. She must spend all her days sorting and washing and drying and folding. I think that's akin to kids in the 1800s working in sweat shops. All the more reason to Free Jinger Duggar now!

casperT said...

You can always tell who's dogging the Duggars because they will spell God with a little g. Christians know better. The Duggars are loved here in our home. TLC won't cancel what God has approved so RUDE, NEGATIVE, AND JEALOUS people need to leave them alone.

Stinky said...

Families like this are really irresponsible. For those who say "so what, its their business" you're not really thinking of those kids. They must not get much if any time for themselves and with their parents. Especially the girls. I like how the boys get real clothes and the girls have to wear home made ankle length dresses. Not to even mention the environmental impact. The world is majorly overpopulated as it is, but can you imagine if every family decided to have 15+ children? Goodbye all natural resources. Just because you can have a lot of kids, doesn't mean you should. Cherish the children you do have. Quality over quantity.

Anonymous said...

You are the one that may not be thinking. Every family will not "decide to have 15+ children". That is what makes these families so special.

The people who think these children are abused because they are not "experiencing the world". Excuse me, this world has nothing these kids need to experience.

These children will have a better upbringing than the majority of kids in the world today. They are learning life skills and kids need chores in order to teach them responsibility. They are learning to get along with people, plus they are having to bear people's hate of their life on their back.

When they get grown they will be strong, independent, thoughtful, productive and respectful members of society and they can choose the lifestyle they want to live.

They will appreciate the childhood their parents provided for them. They will have wonderful and beautiful memories of their childhood. How many kids have that in today's society.

Stinky said...

Being irresponsible and selfish does not make these families special. They're doing something that almost anyone can do, but most have the sense not to. This isn't special, people watch because it's weird. But people will watch anything, just look at the crappy reality shows on all the networks. You really can't say that you know how these kids will wind up.

The world has nothing to experience? Bad things happen, but if you're going to hide from the world because of paranoia and xenophobia you're missing out on some of the best parts of life. And by teaching this to kids you're setting them up for some major life issues when they are thrust out into the real world.

Anonymous said...

Are you “Pro-Life” or “Pro-Choice”?

If you are Pro-Life, then you shouldn’t have a problem with these people. And if you are Pro-Choice, you still shouldn’t have a problem with these people. After all, whose “choice” is it? We want “choice” for ourselves, but don’t want these people to have “choice”. When we get to decide other people’s lives, then it is no longer “choice” for them, and we would then also get to choose for you. Do you want other people choosing your life? Of course not, I don’t either, but we cannot have it both ways. If “their choice” can be taken away by others, it won’t be long before “your choice” can be taken away by others. I understand and appreciate their choice is not your choice. It’s not mine either, but it is “theirs”. And whether you agree with these people or not, we should all be protecting their right to “Choice”.

How can one say these children will have paranoia and xenophobia any more than anyone else? Because their life is different from yours does not make it wrong. This “world” teaches alcohol, drugs, crime, immorality, Hollywood, etc. Children should be protected from such things and at the same time taught how to avoid them. You can be taught to deal with life and not participate in the things of this “world”. They can be as equipped for life as anyone else, if not better. These children do not appear to fear or hate strangers. No one needs to feel threatened by the way these people choose to live their life.

I do agree with you on the “crappy reality shows”, and thankfully we have the “choice” to continue changing the channel and we are not forced to watch them. I don’t appreciate tattoos or body piercings, I personally find it extremely nasty looking. YUK! But some people go all out for this. It is their choice. I dislike greatly those fake wrestling shows, but some people love it, so I will leave it to them. But as for me, I have the “choice” and I choose not to watch it.

Anonymous said...

i really like this show and i dont want tlc to cancel it and if thats how they want to live there lifes then that how they should

MELINDA said...

For those of you who are too scared to leave your name....you are the one who is wrong! I have spent time with both families and I love and respect each and everyone of them! Who are you to say they are wrong? Who are you to judge them? They don't push their religion on anyone! You are the one who turned on the TV set and watched the show. If you don't like it... don't watch it! The Bates and The Duggars are wonderful God fearing people and this whole world could learn ALOT by watching 30 minutes of the show. I thank God for them all and I only hope that I can raise my children to be as good as their children are!

Anonymous said...

Well, nice to know where the anti-christian bigots hang out. I guess all you Duggar haters like disrespectful, materialistic, drug addled children.

Shout out to MELINDA!

Anonymous said...

Melinda,

Were you by chance home-schooled? Just wondering.

Mary Anne said...

There's nothing rude or jealous about saying that what that family is doing is irresponsible and unethical. It's a simple fact.
And for those who say they're not hurting anyone, that's also very untrue.
The most ecologically damaging thing anyone can do is have a child. Of course, when you say they're not hurting anyone, you are only thinking of humans, because salmon, whales, old growth forests, and other nonhumans are clearly not important to you. They clearly do not count as life in your world, and they clearly do not count in the Duggar's either.
And before you call me a bleeding heart liberal environmentalist, I am a gun toting country girl who understands that humans are the only idiotic species who doesn't seem to understand the concept of carrying capacity.
If we all "learned" their "wonderful lessons" and lived like their "wonderful family" we'd quickly discover the destructiveness of their insane quest for immortality and through xenophobic over breeding.

Glenda said...

God bless this wonderful family Both the Duggers and the Bates and
families like them. What a blessing to pass on to children A moral sense of right and wrong and children who dress modestly and honor thier mothers and families. What a great role model these parents are. Michelle and Jim Bob are such marvelous God honoring parents. More programs please.

Anonymous said...

It is about time there is something
decent on t.v...TLC has made a very wise choice by adding the 'Dugger Family' to their line-up! My family and me consider this show to be the best...no sex,
no foul language, no body parts hanging out, no weird coloured hair, no body piercing, no bodies jumping in and out of bed, with the telephone book, no risque clothing, no running to the bank to cash their welfare check(s), no
filing for bankruptcy, no sexually transmitted diseases, no drunkeness, no cheating, no divorces, no child abuse, no domestic abuse, no child neglect, no violence of any sort, no filthy home, no disrepect to family members or anyone else, no member not well educated,(they all speak very clearly), no criticism of other people who believe or act differently than them,...The above behaviors are akin to a breath of fresh, CLEAN air! The Duggers have made a conscious choice to not participate in joining the rest of the 'polluted world'...Their type of behavior is the stability this nation was built on, without 'cracks' in the foundation...

Anonymous said...

....an addendum (and correction) ie, 'the above behaviors are akin...' I meant to say, the Duggers behavior is akin to a breath of fresh, CLEAN air! Thank you TLC for continuing to promote this show!

Anonymous said...

So Mary Anne, your own words say that your parents were irresponsible, unethical and ecologically damaging because they had you.

You can relax, everyone is NOT going to live like the Duggars, and they clearly do not choose to live their lives like you. That’s what makes their lives interesting to so many people.

I don’t understand what salmon, whales, old growth forests and other nonhumans have to do with the Duggars, but I can tell you that personally, I will eat the salmon, (if you've never tried it, you should, it is delicious), I will use the whale for their oil, and I will cut down enough forest to build a house. If no one has ever explained it to you, let me try, that is the purpose of these things, that’s why they are here on this earth. They were never meant to be elevated in our thinking above humans, these things are here for us to use.

Also, I am curious as to why you tote a gun in the country? Are you planning to use it, if not then why are you toting it? Are you planning to use it on the precious animals, or the idiotic species of humans?

arjahi said...

I enjoy this program very much. Thank you TLC. If only more families would teach their children to be polite, respectful and well behaved like the Bates and Duggars.

Anonymous said...

For all of you people babbling about how wonderful the Duggars are, I remind you that what you are seeing is a Reality TV Show, not reality. And that these minor children are being exploited by their parents for monetary gain, just like Jon and Kate have done. TV cameras filming intimate details of their lives in their home, the children being carted around and paraded about all while being filmed. Most are not old enough to consent to this and clearly would not be allowed to object regardless. And I'm sure the kids have neither working papers nor are they being compensated for this work. I don't care if parents who exploit their children call themselves "Christians" or not. Either way, it is simply terrible parenting and should certainly not be exalted or even condoned. And we should question the real values on anyone who thinks it should be.

Anonymous said...

I thoroughly enjoy watching the Duggars, the Gosslins, the Roloffs, and the Little Couple.

I love to see what’s going on in their lives, and am amazed at how they put up with the cameras everywhere.

There are a lot of people that also enjoy watching these shows. Possibly more want to watch than not watch. Even the people that claim to hate these people will tune in just so they can fuss and get upset over it. I find that hilarious.

I wonder if anyone that is complaining about these people thinks their life would be interesting enough that would make people want to watch them. We all apparently have boring lives because we are watching and discussing them instead of living our lives. lol

Anonymous said...

The Duggar Family is a sweet family and are happy - for all you complainers out there ... they don't cost you a thing so stop complaining. If you want to have 18 kids have them - if you don't then don't - i believe that you are all just jealous that you are not half as happy as they are and upset that TLC doesn't want to have anything to do with your family. Take pride in your own life and what you've accomplished and be happy for others around you - you will have a greater life when its not filled with hate

Anonymous said...

Amen!

Anonymous said...

Yeah, these people are just wonderful. They use their barely educated daughters as slaves who do all the cooking, cleaning, and child-minding for them. Just like the good ol' days - keep the females dumb, pregnant and in the kitchen. What future do these poor girls have to look forward to? Unless one or two manages to run away with a cameraman, they'll be forced to marry inbred losers like Brother Josh and spend their lives making pies and babies. It's tragic. And it's shameful that people actually celebrate this abuse as something good.

Dill Pickles said...

There are only three things I have to say.First, Michelle Dugger is a hot piece of ass. Second, Michelle Dugger is a slut. Lastly, Jedidiah Dugger will be a serial killer.

Anonymous said...

There are only two things I have to say. First, Dill Pickles is a slut, and second, Dill Pickles will be a serial killer.

Anonymous said...

These people have a great family and they all seem to get along wonderfully. Why so much hate? Are you jealous that these kids have parents that love them. Didnt your Mommy hold you enough? Did Dad run away?

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Moral Majority vs Vocal Minority said...

Everyone is just jealous said...

"Go back many years, when people used to have lots of children. Funny how there was never anything wrong with it then. But for some reason, in this day and age, it is? Bet no one is bright enough to explain that one. "

Many years ago infant (and child) mortality rates were high. A woman could give birth to 19 children and maybe half of them might survive to adulthood.

Now infant mortality (and child mortality) rates are almost 0 so if you have 19 kids there's an excellent chance 19 of them will survive to adulthood.

People have also mentioned how they have "no debt". What people DON'T mention is that because they claim their house is "a church" they don't pay property tax. They're leeches.

Their hypocrisy( i.e. they believe TV is evil but they have a TV show. They claim to love everyone but they hate homosexuals) bugs me. I think I became disgusted with the Duggars when Jim Bob said (on the episode when they dig up diamonds in a big field) that he thinks people who say that fossils et al are millions are years old are stupid because "they date the fossils by the rocks they're in and they date the rocks by the fossils found in them". What a moron. You don't need to be a geologist to understand radio isotopic dating.

Moral Majority vs Vocal Minority said...

Everyone is just jealous said...

"Go back many years, when people used to have lots of children. Funny how there was never anything wrong with it then. But for some reason, in this day and age, it is? Bet no one is bright enough to explain that one. "

Many years ago infant (and child) mortality rates were high. A woman could give birth to 19 children and maybe half of them might survive to adulthood.

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